Prince Philip is a direct descendant of the Byzantine Emperors, and Prince Charles and William will be as his descendant. The Montferrats would not have been in contention, and their heir through a female still less so. I do think it is very cool to have the surname of past emperors though. This category is not shown on its member pages. A powerful court official of the Nicaean Empire, when Theodore II Laskaris died leaving a seven-year-old heir, John IV, his path to succession was crystal clear. The point of reciting the succession from Andronicus II was to show just how junior the Montferrat line was, and I really don't see why an heir through females from them would be preferred to an heir through females from Thomas. These routes typically involve either linkages among the ruling dynasties of the post-Roman Empire Germanic states, or those between the ancient dynasties of the Caucasus and the rulers of the Byzantine Empire. There are two things you’ve probably heard about Emperor Constantine. Many features may not work properly without it. An interesting connection between Byzantine Emperors, the Fall of Orthodox Constantinople in 1453, and early English colonisation in the New World. Learn how and when to remove this template message, Byzantium under the Constantinian and Valentinianic dynasties, Laskarid dynasty (Empire of Nicaea, 1204–1261), House of Habsburg (incl. This is a list of XII (Byzantine) Eastern Roman Emperors that had been the main target of a plot, had been deposed, assassinated or had been a victim of any kind of misfortune that didn’t end their life naturally. The absence of any mentions of John Palaiologos in contemporary sources means that the Paleologus family's status as genuine male-line descendants of the last few Byzantine emperors can not be proven, but it is not impossible. I then capitalised on this unknown's work. The Turkish Cypriots are Sunni Muslims. The next year, 1259, the joint guardian became joint Emperor. For anyone interested in not possible but verified living descendants of Byzantine Emperors, I cover the subject in my Blood Royal II thread in the Royal Genealogy section, commencing with post #44 on page three. Yes, there were plenty of nobles in Europe who could trace their ancestry to various Byzantine emperors. Wear a mask, wash your hands, stay safe. There is a branch of geneology referred to as "descent from antiquity" that tries to trace some of the 8th and 9th century royals to the Roman period. Charlemagne has a probable descent from some proconsuls in the Roman period, but not to any emperors. The link is also correct in saying that as far as we know the posterity of Zoe, youngest daughter of Thomas Palaelogus and second wife of Ivan III of Russia, is entirely extinct. By that measure, modern Greeks are almost completely unrelated to the ancient Romans. He and his brother John fought in the English civil war battle of Naseby, in the king's side and after the victory of the Parliamentarians he was self-exiled to Barbados where his mother had land possessions. Furthermo… If some of the Italian princes married decendants of Byzantine emperors, their blood would have found its way into the French and Spanish royal families, thence to England. For example, Emperor Francis I of Austria was the heir through the house of Lorraine and the Gonzagas of Mantua of the junior branch of the Palaiologos dynasty who were Margraves of Montferrat descended from a younger son of Andronicus II. The abdication was a result of the Republican Revolution, which also ended 267 years of the Qing Dynasty, as well as 2,000 years of the traditional and ancient imperial system in China. no, there just aren't the records to do it. anyway, the Romanovs are clear and undisputed direct descendants of quite a few Byzantine Imperial Families. One of the most recognizable rulers to be a direct descendant of the Byzantine Empire is Ivan IV Terrible, the 1 st Tsar of Russia. I have been making desultory efforts to find a line from the Castrioti and therefore Thomas Palaiologos into mainstream royalty rather than Italian aristocracy, but had failed to look in the obvious places, as the Wikipedia article on the Palaiologoi gave me the clue I needed (though I then followed a different path from the one Wikipedia had set me on): Helena Palailogina m Lazar II Brankovic, Despot of Serbia, Jerina Brankovic m Gjon Castrioti, Duke of San Pietro in Galatina, Ferrante Scanderbeg-Castrioti, 3rd Duke of San Pietro in Galatina, Erina Scanderbeg-Castrioti m Pietro Sanseverino, 4th Prince of Bisingnano, Vittoria di Sanseverino m Fernando di Capua, 4th Duke of Termoli, Vittoria di Capua m Francesco Pignatelli, 2nd Duke of Bisaccia, Maria Francesca Pignatelli m Leopold Philippe d'Arenberg, 4th Duke of Arenberg, Charles Marie Raymond d'Arenberg, 5th Duke of Arenberg, Princess and Duchess Leopoldine d'Arenberg m Joseph Niklas, Count of Windisch-Graetz, Countess Sophie Luise of Windisch-Graetz m Karl, 5th Prince of Loewenstein-Wertheim-Rosenberg, Constantine, Hereditary Prince of Loewenstein-Wertheim-Rosenberg, Princess Adelheid of Loewenstein-Wertheim-Rosenberg m Miguel I, sometime King of Portugal and the Algarves. well according to this the heirs and descendants should be the hapsburgs : http://my.raex.com/~obsidian/pretends.html#Byzantine. There was likely very little movement between classes in Byzantine society but there was one quick route that could be taken from the very bottom to the very top of the social ladder. If he was lucky and an ambitious general didn't seize power before he was old enough, then he became sole Emperor. The absence of any mentions of John Palaiologos in contemporary sources means that the Paleologus family's status as genuine male-line descendants of the last few Byzantine emperors can not be proven, but it is not impossible. However if one is seeking a genealogical heir to the later Palaelogi it is not necessary to go all the way back to Theodore, younger son of Andronicus II and heir to Montferrat through his mother, his father's second wife. There is actually a great possibility of the existence of living descendants of the Byzantine Imperial Family of  'Palaeologos'. Where three dates are given, the middle date is the date of accession. Other known 'emperor-authors' are Leo V the Armenian (813 to 820), Leo VI the Wise (886 to 912), Constantine VII (reigned 913 to 959), and Theodore II Laskaris (1254 to 1258). I couldn't find any evidence to this, and sounds like a legend or made up rumor of some kind. This category contains eponymous categories. Which was the foundation of the Palailogoi as the last and longest-reigning dynasty of Imperial Byzantium, and was in fact if not quite par for the course not altogether out of line with the way some earlier dynasties had ascended. His grave (see photo below) exists there until today and the inscription on it says: “Here lyeth ye body of Ferdinando Paleologus Descended from ye imperial lyne Of ye last Christian Emperors of Greece Churchwarden of this Parish 1655-1656, Vestryman, Twentye years Died Oct. 3 1678”. There are also smaller Maronite, Armenian,… Zoe being regarded as in some sense heiress, which she wasn't at all really, is due to her marriage and the Russian claim to have inherited the mantle of Byzantium, though I feel that that was rather more in the sense of being spiritual successors as Orthodox sovereigns than any claim to lineal inheritance. By that time he had married the love of his life, an alluring stage entertainer and courtesan who now became the Empress Theodora and would be a major influence on him until she died, riddled with disease, in 548. Constantinople, Byzantine Empire Immediate Family: ... 11 December 1282) reigned as Byzantine emperor 1259–1282. 55. There is a variety of imperial, state and navy flags, symbols and emblems. So it is interesting to discuss the idea of heirs to the Palaiologoi, their current heir to head of the family would not have any solid claim to the Imperial throne. During the late 6th and early 7th centuries, the Byzantine Empire was under frequent attack from all sides. YouTube,  Justinian's childless uncle became the Roman Emperor Justin I in A.D. 518. Thursday, March 29, 2012 The last descendant of the Byzantine emperors in Barbados the grave of Ferdinandus Paleologus in Barbados. The Byzantine Empire is a Italian kingdom centered around the fortress city of Constantinople, and spreading across the Turkish region. Therefore, the House of Holstein-Gottorp was choosen because they´re descendents accepted to convert - Wittelsbach was an option, but they also didn´t accept. Other known 'emperor-authors' are Leo V the Armenian (813 to 820), Leo VI the Wise (886 to 912), Constantine VII (reigned 913 to 959), and Theodore II Laskaris (1254 to 1258). One could have been made Emperor by acclamation of the army (like in its distant Roman past), by birth, proclaimed so by the Patriarch (with the military's support as well of course), or simply by just taking it (like Basil I did). Hamnet, a boy, died in 1596 at 11 years of age. If an emperor reigned for more than one sitting, his lifetime dates are given followed by the dates of his reigns. Alexios V Doukas Murtzuphlos (1204) Alexios V Doukas remained in history with the peculiar nickname "Murtzuphlos". Lv 7. John III Doukas Vatatzes: 1221-1254: 2. Besides, as you may remember there were often one or more co emperors along with the ruling emperor. He adopted Justinian either before or after he became emperor; hence the name Justinianus. Within a few days Michael had mounted a coup, seizing joint guardianship of the boy-Emperor with the Patriarch. Vimeo,  Is there any such will? It seems that in the early centuries evangelization was first carried on by Latin missionaries among the descendants of the Roman colonisers sent there by Emperor Trajan. In 527, at any rate, Justin made him co-emperor with the title of Augustus and when Justin died that year Justinian, now aged about 45, became sole emperor. Andronikos II Palaiologos: 1282-1328: 7. So why her existence and her many descendants always get totally ignored in these discussions is beyond me. As I recall, the current British royal family is descended from at least two of the later Byzantine emperors. Theodosios III: 715-717: 6. The Wikipedia information that got me started was that a Princesse d'Arenberg married a Pfalzgraf of Zweibruecken, bringing descent from Thomas Palaiologos to the Dukes of Bavaria. The double-headed eagle existed also as a flag of the Empire in the late centuries but mostly as an Imperial emblem. Justinian Family Data. The Greek throne was proposed to the King Peter I/IV as descendent of Commeno, but he declined - A conversion to Orthodox Church was needed. The daughters of Eric IV of Denmark and his wife Jutta of Saxony were very early Scandinavians to descend from several Byzantine Emperors. Theophilos: 829-842 Most Cruel Byzantine Emperors (tyrants and paranoid rulers) 1. Emperor Constantine XI Palaiologos was the last emperor of the Eastern Roman Empire, today more commonly known as the Byzantine Empire. One of them Ferdinandos Paleologos, a direct descendant of that Imperial Family, died at 03.10.1678, in the Barbados islands. The Empire of Trebizond was an offshoot of the Byzantine Empire that existed from 1204 to 1461 CE, ruled by the Megas Komnenos Dynasty, descendants of the Komenos Byzantine emperors. While this is not very far off gibberish, I was able to translate it as meaning that Maximilian Joseph, Duke in Bavaria was a descendant through his mother. He grew up in Greece, and so neither should be a big surprise. Of the emperors who were deposed, most were killed immediately or within a few days of losing power. Kindest Byzantine Emperors (really nice guys) 1. That they use always with the common elements of the cross and the double-headed eagle. And as did Archduke Otto and therefore his heir Archduke Karl, which brings us back to where we started. Tiberius II Constantine: 578-582: 4. Most usual "natural" causes: dysentery (3 cases), dropsy (3), epilepsy (4). If you'd suggested the succession spinning off to a remote cousin, as can happen with more orderly systems, the Byzantines when they stopped laughing would have picked a much nearer relative of the previous Emperor, or quite possibly started a new dynasty altogether. Holy Roman Empire after 1440), Spain (Iberian Peninsula and Balearic Islands), https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Family_tree_of_Byzantine_monarchs&oldid=998144879, Articles lacking in-text citations from January 2021, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License, This page was last edited on 4 January 2021, at 01:14. Are there some untraced ones, quite possibly. View entire discussion ( 15 comments) More posts from the byzantium community. There was no law which regulated inheritance in Byzantine Empire. In any case, when Constantinople fell to the Fourth Crusade, Alexios and David adopted the traditional Byzantine title “Emperor and Autocrat of the Romans.” This meant that the rulers of Trebizond were claiming to be the successors of the Byzantine Empire and the Roman Empire. Andronicus's heir was an elder son from his first marriage, Michael IX. Also of two sons, from neither of whom is there known descent, and of an elder daughter Helena, who married Lazar II Brankovic, Despot of Serbia. Dynasty names are given in capitals so that they can be picked out from the interweaving trees. The Byzantine broke social classes down into three broad categories: the Upper Class, the Middle Class, and the Lower Class. The vast number of bureaucrats needed to run the massive and complex administration of the eleventh century empire vanish. The obvious answer would be Greece, but the modern state draws much more of its identity from Athens than Constantinople. It was traditionally fairly meritocratic, which was helped by the fact that noble ranks never became hereditary in the Byzantine Empire. At the Barbados islands there is a grave of a person called Ferdinadus Paleologus. @DutchMonarchist: The Otto´s heir, King Ludwig of Bavaria did an oath at this marriage renouncing to the Greek throne. The existence of further descendants of Ferdinandos Palaeologos is under thorough investigation. None of their own contemporaries appear to have doubted their imperial descent. Those daughters, Sophia of Denmark and Ingeborg of Denmarkwere progenitors of several lines of mighty Northern European princely dynasties, spreading Byzantine ancestry. This was called the "Malady of the Purple," because any one with power could seize the throne in the Byzantine Empire. At least for 5 of them, there were suspicions for poisoning. 1 They don't seem to come back, yet from their reduced territories and apparently simplified state apparatus, the Komnenian emperors carry out some of the most impressive feats of logistics in the entirety of Byzantine history. Map showing the extent of the Byzantine Empire in c. 600 and c. 900, including the themes for the latter date . The first that comes to mind is Ivan III, his father was a brother of the last Emperor Constantine.There is a link that Lucien just posted on it. So even if there are direct descendants of the last emperor of the East living among us, I personally would not consider that they are 'the' Byzantine Bloodline, because it was not officially a bloodline-based system of succession. In any case, there are plenty of specific family studies and more general works of Byzantine prosopography that would have some discussion to your purpose. So This Emperor of Trabzond Manuel III had a daughter and I am a descendant of this Daughter of Manuel III. 1 decade ago. 0 0. Someone else discovered the link, even though they evidently struggled to express themselves in any human language (I have no problem with Pfalzgraf of Zweibruecken, Princesse d'Arenberg or Dukes of Bavaria, but the combination in the context was just all wrong). Once a part of the Roman Empire they have become arguably more powerful then their original Empire as they have been led affectively and expanded quite steadily since they were founded. Constantine XI- the last of the emperors had the same name as the first Byzantine emperor- would die as the last of the Roman emperors in the final siege of Constantinople in 1453 without any sons, neither did his brother Demetrios the despot of Morea have children, although their youngest brother Thomas married to the Genoese Caterina Zaccaria had 3 children: Andreas, Manuel, … The Angeloi were the 14th of these dynasties, but the first whose founding Emperor was descended from any previous occupant of the throne. The Romans conquered Greece fully in 146 BC. The structure was loose, not rigid. In 672 the Byzantines rolled out a new weapon called Greek Fire. There is actually a great possibility of the existence of living descendants of the Byzantine Imperial Family of  'Palaeologos'. What I am Happy about is that finally I have come in contact with a fellow Distant Kinsman/Cousin. They didn't have a system of inheritance. In any case, though Greek was the language of Byzantium it wasn’t ‘Greek’ as we think of that term today. Large images may take a few minutes to appear. Here are a few other common Byzantine misconceptions that everyone should know about. This category is not shown on its member pages by default. The last emperor, Constantine XI, did not have children before he died in the fall of Constantinople, so there are no direct descendents. The Sassanid Empire was pressing from the east on Syria, Egypt, and Anatolia. In other words, there was social mobility. So even if there are direct descendants of the last emperor of the East living among us, I personally would not consider that they are 'the' Byzantine Bloodline, because it was not officially a bloodline-based system of succession. There appears no record of any divorce of said Maria. His brothers' male children did not survive to … Constantine VII Porphyrogenetos: 913-959: 3. If an emperor reigned for more than one sitting, his lifetime dates are given followed by the dates of his reigns. The Byzantine throne only really worked on genetic descent when the family in question was strong enough to keep hold of the Empire. John II Komnenos: 1118-1143: 5. We know that there isn’t any documented evidence for any such descendants, and so we can quickly dismiss the common misconception that they exist. By related, I am going to assume culturally as well as genetically. As far as I know the house of Wittelsback did accept the throne, right? The first Palailogos Emperor, Michael VIII, encapsulates the process. Exactly. During the Byzantine Roman Empire 324-1453. I think you'll find some of the videos on r/UsefulCharts channel interesing: Who has the best claim to the title of Roman Emperor? Posted by 2 days ago. Shop unique Byzantine face masks designed and sold by independent artists. Susanna married John Hall in 1607 and had one child, Elizabeth, in 1608. This is a family tree of all the Eastern Roman Emperors who ruled in Constantinople. They had no sons but three daughters. History Background. None of their own contemporaries appear to have doubted their imperial descent. Puyi was the last emperor of the Qing Dynasty. I do think it is very cool to have the surname of past emperors though. The genealogy chart I made begins with Constantine the Great’s dynasty or the Constantinian Dynasty of the Roman Empire going all the way down and ending with the 1 st Tsar of Russia. Please enable JavaScript in your browser settings. It is well known that he was son of  Theodoros Palaeologos. Nevertheless the offsprings of the imperial family sold the right to claim the throne to Ferdinand of Aragon and Isabella of Castile, Spanish monarchs. Well the children of Prince Phillip and Queen Elizabeth have a known descent from the Byzantine kings, but it is more from their father then their mother. Michael VIII was the founder of the Palaeologan dynasty that would rule the Byzantine Empire until the Fall of Constantinople in 1453. Two major groups here: i) emperors whose reigns were terminated with their death ii) emperors who abdicated or were deposed before their death i) Emperors who died as emperors. Generally the son of the Emperor would be elevated to Caesar (until that title was abolished) and then eventually Co-Emperor when he got old enough. The Empire of Trebizond has been far less researched than the Byzantine Empire, let alone the Roman Empire, yet it was the last real surviving descendant of those empires.. Famed for its lucrative trade … this is somewhere in the mid 1300s. It's rather hard to say what it was exactly; an eldest son had a good chance of succeeding his father is about as systematic as it got, and that most definitely did not apply in all cases. The video also claims that Constantine was bribed or paid for this in some way. None of these, though, come close to meeting your criteria as they died as emperors. Two of Flaminio's sons it appears had descent lasting to the 20th century, and one of them. King Otto was only desposed and replaced by the house of Holstein-Gottorp in the 1860s. Obviously Dom Miguel has the descent, as does Victor Emmanuel and as do the children of King Michael of the Romanians. If your URL is correct, you'll see an image preview here. emperor Ioannes' first wife had been (the probably late) Maria Skleraina, daughter of Gregoria, and sister of Bardas Skleros and Konstantinos Skleros. There were a lot of Byzantine emperors, they held onto part of Italy for a long time. An Illyrian, Justinian was born Petrus Sabbatius in A.D. 483 in Tauresium, Dardania (Yugoslavia), a Latin-speaking area of the Empire. Easily create a Forum Website with Website Toolbox. Statistically, yes, a lot of individuals are possibly descended from the emperors of Ancient Rome since the Most Recent Common Ancestor of anyone of … 1) Emperor Leo VIof Constantinople m2 Zoe Tzautzaina 2) Anna of Byzantium m Louis the Blind, King of Lower Burgundy and Italy (disputed) 3) Charles-Constantine, Count of Vienne 4) … The deed was actually done on the child's eleventh birthday, if anything were needed to magnify the enormity of this abominable piece of cruelty and betrayal. Helena wasn't heiress either, but she was Zoe's full sister, elder to boot, and while Zoe's posterity is extinct hers is abundant. No, there are no direct descendants of William Shakespeare living today. He was followed by his son, Andronicus III, and he by his, John V, whose son and successor was Manuel II (notable for having visited England). The not exactly well-regulated Byzantine succession was not semi-Salic, the only basis on which a Montferrat heiress could be preferred. As far as I know, "Emperor of the Romans" isn't used by any of the monarchs that could possibly. Many lines descend from that marriage to the present day; you can go. There was another king with the same epithet: ... obviously in an effort to fake a relation with the glorious Komnenid dynasty and perhaps to make people forget the family ties with the emperor he had mutilated. He is not only remembered for being the last Byzantine Emperor who put up a brave last stand against the Ottomans, but also for his last speech to his officers and allies before the Fall of Constantinople on May 29, 1453 by Ottoman Sultan Mehmet II. 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